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The war is developing rapidly every single day It's hard to know when and how it will all end.

But three of Berlingske's most experienced correspondents dare the fur anyway and come up with their analysis Nina Schaumann Journalist Get a Digital Plus subscription and continue listening immediately.

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Whoa, let us play the podcast It is ready when you have clicked 'Allow everyone' This is a question we probably all ask ourselves.

Where will the war end? Exactly one year after its start, Berlingske's editor-in-chief Mette Østergaard has convened three of the magazine's correspondents to make us more aware of the answer The event, which was recorded live in Pilestræde, can also be heard in a special edition of "Østergaard's salon".

The long-time correspondent and military historian Poul Høi says that there are three ways in which wars have historically ended - the unconditional, where one party loses, the negotiated peace, and the unresolved, as we saw it during the Cold War Høi was joined today by Emil Rottbøll, current Russia correspondent, and Simon Kruse, security policy correspondent and former correspondent in Ukraine and Russia.

The section is special in the sense that it is divided into two sections In the first part of the podcast, they talk about the early start of the war, the past year and the future - and then there are personal testimonies from Simon Kruse and Emil Rottbøll, who have both been in the war zone after the war broke out.

But the possible outcomes in particular were the focal point Poul Høi does not believe that some of the parties are strong enough to win unconditionally, so for him it will be either a negotiated solution, or it will not end for the next several years.

"In both cases, it is important that Ukraine is as strong as possible, also for posterity," he says In addition, he does not believe that Russia will give up.

"We are entering a new cold war " Emil Rottbøll does not believe that the end will come anytime soon.

"Regardless of what happens with Ukraine, it's a war that will continue for as long as Putin is in power and for a few years after, and unfortunately it's still quite a few years," he says According to him, Putin is betting on, that time works for him, the war grinds to a halt, and we get tired in the West.

In many ways, things are actually going well for Russia – their economy has not been hit particularly hard, and "it may well be that they don't have gunpowder and bullets right now, but they can keep going," as Emil Rottbøll explains it The same message comes from Simon Kruse, who says that "the very likely scenario is that it is a new reality that will shape the world order going forward".

In the second part of the podcast, the guests had the opportunity to get answers to their specific questions Among other things, there was someone who asked how Ukraine has managed to hold out until now.

Simon Kruse points out that exactly one year ago, Putin's expectations were high "He did as he usually does, and things have gone well in Crimea and Donbas.

This time it didn't work,' he says Kruse believes that it is mainly due to Ukraine's perseverance.

"There are some things that have turned out lucky If Zelenskyj had been liquidated at the start, it would have been different.

' He was in Kyiv himself when the war broke out, where he heard volleys of gunfire from the government quarter Later it emerged that there had been two attempts to storm the presidential palace that day.

But Zelenskyj survived and did not flee "It surprised many, including the United States, because the previous presidents in the country have done it," he says and adds: "Perhaps it was what Putin himself would have done, so he thought that Zelenskyj would too.

" Kruse assesses that the great resistance shown by the Ukrainians has helped to increase the desire for support from the Western side Poul Høi believes that it is good that we put our foot down now.

"It is a positive development, that we stand up against the autocrats and against Russia We say "now it doesn't work anymore, dear friends".

He draws parallels with the supervillain from the well-known Harry Potter book series "Voldemort is getting stronger and stronger, and that's exactly what has happened to Russia.

If we hadn't stopped him now, we would have stopped him later And then it had been about the Baltics, Finland and Poland, and we had been directly involved in the war.

'' But Emil Rottbøll, on the other hand, believes that Putin was in top form just a year ago - and therefore the attack makes perfect sense, seen from Russian eyes "Putin has moved at the time when the balance of power has been most in his favor.

There has simply been a window of opportunity in relation to how dependent we are on the gas and where we stood militarily,' he says Rottbøll believes,.

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